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Radiostations directory & Editing

By Lincoln Josh
Posted 11 January 2015, 11.29am est

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Discussing radiostations' articles (pages)' structure and all, trouble with editing, improvements to articles and editing possibilities.
All about nuances, rendering, etc., etc.
First question: who tried editing so far?:)

Comments

2 years, 7 months ago

Myself just tried doing LCR (LSU's media). Not for the first time I submitted edits, and so far I've got some observations.

  1. The dropdown menus have keyboard navigation/search, but it appears deficient in cases: with textual items, it only plucks to the first item with the initial letter, then no further reaction to any second or third letter typed in; so instead of "Programming: presenter" I had something else, which affected the "Job type" box, I had to clear it, just a bit messy.
  2. One can't seem to submit more than one item at a time. I "killed" half an hour having to add a phone, a mailbox, and several people. Maybe it makes sense: I noticed an interface that fetched something from the database on the go, so... but wouldn't it be interesting to elaborate the whole thing somehow? I understand the site is meant to work on "simple" devices, but even then the server could recognise the user's stuff and have alternatives. What do you think?

2 years, 7 months ago

James, it wasn't my typo. I just "deleted" that "lrc" and added that studio email again - don't screw this time:)

2 years, 7 months ago

James, to Marlow FM, you, or whoever it was, added "Wycombe district, Thames" as a single tag, while it'd been mean to be two separate tags: most services allow for adding multiple tags, distinguishing them by separating them with commas - why not here? Or is it that all edits are approved manually? I used a comma - please see to it. (image)

PRO2 years, 7 months ago

Hi, Josh. Yeah, I agree, we should make it possible to add multiple tags at once. All edits are approved manually, but that approval extends to hitting a "Approve" button, and that's all. I didn't approve that one - we have a few great directory editors doing that.

I am going to change the email confirmations to be bundled up, so you get less of those; but there isn't a simple way to add multiple information at once. It is considerably streamlined as opposed to Media UK though.

I will also be adding a site feedback section here very shortly (its half done), by the way.

2 years, 7 months ago

...but that approval extends to hitting a "Approve" button, and that's all.

I don't get why that "lrc" typo happened then. Myself had copypasted... Well... Maybe. (image)

2 years, 6 months ago

How to edit the "Listen" section?
For the Bangor Community Radio, I just added like a website by "Other" - for I saw like "similar" items there in the dropdown.

2 years, 5 months ago

James, 2 points.

  1. Adding people, there's this job type which must be picked up obligatorily. Is it really necessary?
  2. Those orange buttons do not make my pointer into a hand - which is quite customary, even default in normal HTML rendering. Why not here? No colour change, no pointer shape change...

2 years, 5 months ago

I'm sorry, who changed CHBN's title to the whole railroad?
What is the right title for the station?
https://www.facebook.com/chbnradio

PRO2 years, 5 months ago

I'm sorry, who changed CHBN's title to the whole railroad?

If you click on 'See the Changelog' at the bottom of the directory page, it tells you who has changed each edit.

PRO2 years, 4 months ago

Josh - you can't edit the "listen" section. You can add a TuneIn URL in "websites -> TuneIn". That functionality would be rather better if it simply automatically recognised a TuneIn URL, wouldn't it?

Adding people: yes, the job type is mandatory. It is so that we can show a big list of, for example, Programme Directors at each station, irrespective of whether one of them wants to be known as a Controller.

The orange buttons should behave like buttons in every respect, but I will check what is going on. I think you use an old Opera browser which we don't support though.

2 years, 4 months ago

The orange buttons should behave like buttons in every respect, but I will check what is going on. I think you use an old Opera browser which we don't support though.

No, I don't (image)
I mostly use a browser that is autoupdated. I understand those oranges are "display: block" links or submit buttons. You might consider checking their CSS settings.


You can add a TuneIn URL in "websites -> TuneIn". That functionality would be rather better if it simply automatically recognised a TuneIn URL, wouldn't it?

I have lots of canstream broadcasting streams. Mind adding? Or "other"? (image)

2 years, 4 months ago

James, I submitted a two-tag entry today: two tag items separated by a comma.
I got an email "we added A tag" - checked now: yes, it is one tag instead of two.
WHEN do you implement normal tagging? The comma is a universally used tag separator.

PRO2 years, 4 months ago

Howdy. Yes, you add tags one by one currently. Let me add that to the list to fix.

The 'canstream' links are not very useful, incidentally; Radiofeeds does a good job of listing raw streams, and I don't really want to start competing with them.

PRO2 years, 4 months ago

You can now add more than one tag at the same time, separating with a comma. It works just as you expect it to. Tags are now also clickable in directory pages.

2 years, 4 months ago

O'k, I've just checked it out...
Are they case-insensitive now? I'd like them to keep being case-sensitive.
Further, I'd like the edit-queue log to appear before I commence suggesting (and submitting) my edits - if it's possible.

PRO2 years, 4 months ago

They're case insensitive, as is the standard for tags. They actually go into the system as "the case they were when they were first entered), so if you enter "rock" and it was never in the system, it'll be "rock", but if someone else entered "Rock" first, it'll always be "Rock".

There is an edit queue for each media title: https://media.info/radio/stations/absolute-radio/changelog is one example (with a bug for the tags, since it's added those twice)

2 years, 4 months ago

No, not that log - that where I'm told "n edits await approval". I mean if there are many there, if it's o'k I submit a duplicate...

PRO2 years, 4 months ago

Duplicates are fine, and will be spotted.

2 years, 4 months ago

Last time I got an email notification about my approved edits, it looked like this:

06.04.2015 22:30, media.info info@media.info

Hello Josh,rnrn Thanks so much for updating
media.info. We have just done the
following:rnhttps://media.info/radio/stations/camglen-radio

  • : Deleted a tag (Cambuslang, South Lanarkshire:
    Cambuslang, South Lanarkshire) from CamGlen
    Radiornhttps://media.info/radio/stations/camglen-radio
  • : Added tags (Cambuslang, South Lanarkshire) to
    CamGlen
    Radiornhttps://media.info/radio/stations/camglen-radio
  • : Added tags (Cambuslang, South Lanarkshire) to
    CamGlen
    Radiornhttps://media.info/radio/stations/keith-community-radio
  • : Added tags (Keith Community Radio, part-time)
    to
    KCRrnhttps://media.info/radio/stations/keith-community-radio
  • : Added tags (Keith Community Radio, part-time)
    to KCRrnrnrnKind of you to keep us up to
    date. Please hurry back and make more
    changes.rnrnYou can unsubscribe from these
    confirmations emails here:
    http://media.info/mern-- rnmedia.info is a Not
    At All Bad Ltd website. Registered in England, No
    1. Data Protection Act 1998: registration
      number Z1084808. http://www.notatallbad.ltd.uk/

There are duplicate lines, you see?

PRO2 years, 4 months ago

Yep. What is happening here is that the "Added tags" text appears once per tag added. It's a bug.

More concerning is the "rnrn" in this text. What email reader are you using? Those rnrn's shouldn't be appearing.

2 years, 4 months ago

There are backslashes between them, actually (they're not shown here you know why).
Email reader? What's the animal?
I use an old browser there (you might guess which, right?), in a newest it looks o'k.

2 years, 4 months ago

Martin, shame on you!

... TeamRock Radio doesn't have advertising as part of it's business model.

"Its"! Get back to it, will you - I couldn't find where to edit that. (image)

2 years, 4 months ago

That was quick...
(image)

2 years, 4 months ago

We now list top weekly editors in our directory pages, like here. This shows the amount of edits that have been approved.

Top weekly editors

...

  1. Authorised User (22 edits)
    ...

Who's the guy? O'Bama? (image)

2 years, 4 months ago

Editing 10Radio, Martin added a TuneIn link, but short before I submitted a canstream link.
Well, it's not submittable now, is it - canstreams etc.? Why not? Can we expect a possibility to submit streaming URLs to stations?

PRO2 years, 4 months ago

For now, we really don't want to list streaming URLs.

It's a headache checking these and ensuring they work correctly. Many people can't do anything with a .pls link anyway; my Mac doesn't know what to do with them and just downloads a file, and it's similar for a Chromebook.

We support links to TuneIn and Radioplayer; and we will be supporting the hybrid radio XSI documents for broadcast radio (which themselves can include streaming links). But - after over twenty years' experience in running this directory - we're not equipped to do a good job with individual streaming links, and many stations prefer we don't use them anyway.

2 years, 3 months ago

So, the answer is likely no, isn't it.

Well, at least I wonder if it'd be convenient to mention somehow that the station is available that way too. See, when I see the "Online" reference there, I always remember that online doesn't mean exactly TuneIn or something. A station might not have a TuneIn while being available online anyway...

PRO2 years, 3 months ago

I would think it unlikely that we'd want to list stations who aren't in TuneIn but are online elsewhere; and unsure that there are any examples currently. But, the hybrid radio XSI will fix that when we support it.

2 years, 3 months ago

O'k.

Celtic Music Radio only has a AM reference - but it is also at 95 MHz in Glasgow itself: the Wiki article has it, and their Facebook page not only cites it, too, but even contains "95" in its username. See to it, please.
I forget, have we already discussed if we would get able to submit broadcasting channels?

PRO2 years, 3 months ago

Yes. Currently we use Ofcom's data but that isn't scalable for other countries. We'll use broadcast details for radio stations (and TV).

PRO2 years, 3 months ago

When adding a telephone number to an entry, could it be made more clearer that the country code has to be added? Otherwise phone numbers show up as "+"

2 years, 3 months ago

I thought country codes were separate and compulsory, wasn't that so for you?
Even I once picked a code then submitted the full format number: it came to look like "+ 44 44 etc." - a lot of extra digits;)

PRO2 years, 3 months ago

Martin, Josh - yes, you're quite right.

From now on, the country code is mandatory (they weren't before), and will automatically default to your 'edition' if you've UK, Ireland, etc, selected in the top. If you're using the 'Worldwide' edition, you'll not have a default, for fairly obvious reasons.

Thanks - good spot.

Incidentally, feel free to open new topics rather than make this (and similar) the longest topics in the world... (wink)

2 years, 3 months ago

Well, to those telephone numbers again.
I gather if I must pick a c.code (which I do), then the rest - the number itself - shall start with the digit immediately following either "0" or "+44", right?
Well then - it is written there that I should enter the "full number" there. Full means exactly either WITH the zero or WITH the country code - the plus included.
Make it make sense and UNambiguous, will you please, James?

PRO2 years, 3 months ago

There ought to be an example there. But you'd write the telephone number as 020 1234 5678 - ie the local phone number without the country code.

2 years, 3 months ago

Wait a minute - without the zero as well, isn't it?

2 years, 3 months ago

James, watch RockSport now - it hasn't been approved yet, but I submitted exactly as I said: code is code, then the "full number" was every digit AFTER the initial zero.

PRO2 years, 3 months ago

Looking at the Rocksport entry, one of those numbers is a text number which I've rejected numerous times, as since the relaunch, the editorial policy has not been to add SMS numbers.

2 years, 3 months ago

It's on their site.
Why not?

And by the way, I came across two instances of duplicate entries there: it was telephone number and something else - email addresses maybe.

2 years, 3 months ago

"Numbers".
I want to edit (image)

2 years, 3 months ago

I'm in Top 5! Yoohoo! :D

2 years, 3 months ago

@Martin Phillp

In 1993, LBC lost it's licence to broadcast from October 1994 and the company went into administration. The new licence owner, London News Radio, backed by Reuters acquired the station and kept LBC and London Talkback Radio on-air until the licence transferred to them .

Martin, it's from LBC's abstract you (?) submitted.
Again, the English possessive of it is its. Apostrophes are used to "possess" nouns, and non-personal pronouns or whatever they are - like "one", "somebody", etc.


Now James, I tried to edit, but could not find the button to edit the abstract -- where is it (if at all)?

PRO2 years, 3 months ago

I can't help but think that someone who has a first language of Russian probably shouldn't be lecturing people on English... !

Anyway: editing the abstract isn't available for most users.

2 years, 2 months ago

My 'lecturing' takes place just because we have the stuff public here - that's all.

2 years, 2 months ago

Looks like a bug.

Yesterday I noticed RockSport Radio had its Facebook page old and wrong.
Popped in, dleted one and added a new one.
Today I checked it out - same poop.

  1. Sometimes, an item shows up more than one time while editing (existing ones). It was so with the wrong Fb page here, too: it was shown as two separate items/fields - both yesterday and now (when I clicked to delete "the other one" this time).
  2. I checked the changelog - I wasn't alone to try changing the stuff, and both attempts are shown in the log as "done deal":

    On 2015-06-11 18:16:00 Josh Lincoln added a Facebook account (RockSport Radio)
    On 2015-06-11 18:15:31 Josh Lincoln deleted a Facebook account (622583107771253) from RockSport Radio
    On 2015-06-11 12:10:21 Martin Phillp added a Facebook account (RockSport Radio)
    On 2015-06-11 12:10:08 Martin Phillp deleted a Facebook account (622583107771253) from RockSport Radio

It doesn't seem to be unique to this particular station thing - doubles and "troubles" happen elsewhere, too, I only haven't definitely registered such an editing fail with others yet...

PRO2 years, 2 months ago

It is a bug, Josh - I'll add it to the list to fix. It's a peculiar Facebook issue.

2 years, 2 months ago

Perhaps.

About that double-appearing, telephones do quite often, sometimes something else.

2 years, 2 months ago

What does this mean?

On 2015-06-19 02:40:53 Martin Phillp changed ‘0’ to ‘5739’ for Crackers Radio

Something secret?:)

PRO2 years, 2 months ago

You're right - these are owner changes, but the info in the changelog just uses the IDs. Which nobody can see. That's another thing to fix.

2 years, 1 month ago

Noticed there was some Radio Skerne shown just edited on the front page.
~With deep regret~ I'm gonna have to inform you that the station listed is most probably dead by now: found their Fb page - it unequivocally says "closed", English Wikipedia doesn't find any sources either (in cases a station's page does not exist, they still offer items where a link can be found or like that).

Well, I say what? Let's have an option to have a station listed unoperational, will we?

2 years, 1 month ago

We're a lacking a station in Uist - An Radio.
They broadcast on FM and online. There's their Facebook page,

An Radio is broadcasting on 105.2FM with news, entertainment, and music from across Uist, and we want you to be part of it!
(image)

PRO2 years ago

Down FM, Nu Sound Radio, West Hull Community Radio (now west Hull FM) have duplicate listings but am unable to delete them.

2 years ago

Would you mind checking the links?
I've seen "duplicates" in search results a couple of times, but the links were the same. I guess such duplication is due to a slight mistune of the search engine - it finds by keywords, and lists so many times as it founds ones.

2 years ago

Well, Mike: there's only 1 item being found for "Down FM"; you're right there are 2 for NuSound; then I tried separately for "West Hull Community Radio" and "Hull FM" - the former gives two, the latter delivers only the second one out of the former's results.

So, there are duplicates.

PRO2 years ago

Basically West Hull FM was West Hull Community radio (so, that should've just been changed and a former name added). "Down FM" IS "FM105 Down Community Radio" and Nu Sound is there twice.

So these need removing:
https://media.info/radio/stations/down-fm
https://media.info/radio/stations/nusound-radio
https://media.info/radio/stations/west-hull-community-radio

2 years ago

"Down FM" IS "FM105 Down Community Radio" and Nu Sound is there twice.

  1. Now you're right - this time it found both (unlike that time).
  2. It is still NuSound - in one word.

2 years ago

Right, if we investigate how that happened/happens, we'll make suggestions/improvements.
For example, if there is no mechanism preventing such duplication... Like who made/makes those articles and if it is only a residue of the transition - then a gradual cleaning'll be enough. Or we might want to "invent" some indices - unique IDs... By which certain data from the articles will be stored - like certain main data in order to automatically check for...

PRO2 years ago

There is one visible unique ID - the "slug" - which looks something like bbc-radio-1 and is in the URL. There's also a numeric ID, which is actually the permanent unique ID, and is currently only visible in the logo filename, which is called /l/m/7/770.1405204646.png - the ID for this media title is "770". Either will be entirely unique. Use either of these when referring to titles to be removed - the " right" one to remove is normally the newer entry.

It's non-trivial to merge/delete titles, but rest assured, those are on the list to be done. I've done some work to help me on this over the last few days. Also done over the last few days - for the first time in over a year, the codebase for media.info is now being incrementally backed up on every code release. If Amazon had wiped this server before now, I'd have had - genuinely - not much left. So, that's nice.

The code does check for uniqueness in the 'slug' when you add a new title - if, of course, you enter the same name. The problem comes if you don't.

If a search finds a result in the title AND in a tag, it will appear twice in the search. This is a known bug, and one that is also in the list.

2 years ago

I suggest we could use that "bug".

If we "factorise" the existing search engine into a basic core and the user interface (which is to improve to exclude duplicating), we could use the core in other applications - such as when someone creates a new article, it'll check the existing base, and if it finds something, it issues a warning - "like we already have such and such, would you like to proceed or rather..?" (image)

2 years ago

For Insight Radio, I just suggested a March 2007 launch date - notwithstanding there was another, much earlier date mentioned (their Fb page)
That is because in (from) 2003, 1) they broadcast by their former and quite different name and 2) they broadcast only on the Internet:

We started off as an internet only service back in 2003 called VIP on air and later re-launched as Insight Radio in March of 2007, appearing first on 101 FM in Glasgow, then on SKY Channel 0188, Freesat 777 and now Freeview 730.
https://www.facebook.com/rnib.insightradio

2 years ago

There is a bit of a bug.

In the changelog for 3FM (as well as how I was emailed about it) there is this:

On 2015-07-31 12:26:31 Josh Lincoln changed ‘104-106 More Music...3FM ’ to ‘104-106 More Music...3FM’ for 3FM

I guess it might be due to the form having multiple input fields, BUT I can well remember adding a launch date before - at least twice - while I can not remember such similar cases of notifying me of, well, such "fictitious" submits "I'd done".
Again, in this particular case, as well as I can remember, I didn't even touch that field, and the "two variants" seem identical (the same).

PRO2 years ago

They're not identical. The top one has a space after 3FM; the 'new' one has that space removed.

You probably didn't do that yourself, but the action of changing the launch date will also have resubmitted the other information, duly trimmed, and it will have registered as a change.

J

PRO2 years ago

Can the following be deleted.

Fire Hit TV - Licence handed back.
OMG! Magazine. Merges with Love It! from August 13th.

1 year, 12 months ago

Mike, what is this Envision about?
From the page for now, I could only get that yes, there is such a station (image)

PRO1 year, 12 months ago

What do you mean by "what is this Envision about?" Josh? What do you want to know?

1 year, 12 months ago

Well, I'm interested in new stations, editing stuff time to time... So now I can only see "there is this station in Cambridgeshire", which doesn't tell much.
So if you added this station, I'd like it to also have some 'format' or what it is about - like music, news, if it is a community station or ILR, some such - to smell something to get interested. Now I'm not even interested enough to get it googled, you know: 'cause 1) the name doesn't tell anything, 2) there are other stations in Cambridgeshire - not 1 (CAM, Cambridge FM, must be more not mentioning some BBC and network ones); which leads to not arising any significant interest to investigate a new vague station for now. Well, if/when it becomes prominent/sounding - some news/scandals... :)

PRO1 year, 12 months ago

Being fair, that's not what we're here for; we're a directory, not an advertising vehicle for specific brands. If you want to find out more about it - now you know about it - that's why we link through to the website and (from two minutes ago) their social media.

PRO1 year, 12 months ago

there are other stations in Cambridgeshire - not 1 (CAM, Cambridge FM, must be more not mentioning some BBC and network ones

As a reminder, you can just search for Cambridge (wink)

1 year, 12 months ago

Right, not advertising. I rather meant certain defining points - as in positioning an object in a frame of reference: like here, what it is about - like xyz, place^format^something else. Like to categorise what you added.
I just see it this way. Otherwise - on Wikipedia they call it a stub. No personal offence and it was just added, o'k? I simply tried to induce Mike about something more. I had an assumption that he might 1) have been interested in the station (so long he added it) and 2) have known some things first-hand or close to that. Thus I came and posted - like from editor to editor (I'm a humble one).

1 year, 11 months ago

Shouldn't we have network articles structured a slight bit differently?
Being to the "kmfm" article, it still shows it wants "the station's launch date" - which is hardly possible, it being like 7 separate licenses etc. What if we had a value - like "network:yes" or something - which would a bit change the fields required...
I've been thinking about a separate directory, but can't see it would be of much good though...

PRO1 year, 11 months ago

Launch dates

kmfm's launch date is the very first kmfm to broadcast.

But this is an interesting thought: because launch dates to me are a little odd now. We're listing Absolute Radio as launching in 1993; but it didn't - that's when Virgin Radio launched. Should the launch dates be the radio station, not the transmitter? That makes a little more sense to me.

Network information

I do agree about network information. I'd like to think about how to do these.

As one use case - I'd like to list Mark Farrington as a broadcast engineer at Global's London brands, but he isn't a broadcast engineer of Heart Scotland.

So - if I add a tag to LBC, Capital 95.8, etc, marked "network:globallondon" (tags with a colon would be invisible), and then associate Mark with that tag rather than an employer, he'd appear in all stations with that tag. Does that make sense?

That then allows Toby Anstis to be a DJ with "network:heart" - i.e. all of them. Or, Mike Read to be a DJ with "network:bauer2england". Or Helen Boaden to be Director of Radio for "network:bbcradio" (and so shouldn't appear for BBC ONE).

Thoughts?

PRO1 year, 11 months ago

Personally I'd like to see two launch dates, one showing the official Ofcom licence date, such as LBC's which actually started in October 1994 as the original company lost their licence and the station launch date, which was October 1973. Radio Jackie also has a similar issue where we list the launch of the station in 1969 as a pirate, but the licence started in 1997 which keeps the connection with Thames Radio.

That way we can have Radio X's launch as 21st September 2015, but keep the Ofcom date as 1st September 1997.

1 year, 11 months ago

But this is an interesting thought: because launch dates to me are a little odd now. We're listing Absolute Radio as launching in 1993; but it didn't - that's when Virgin Radio launched. Should the launch dates be the radio station, not the transmitter? That makes a little more sense to me.

Yet another complication, two of them even.

  1. A station might physically start broadcasting like since X.X.X, then it started broadcasting getting licensed since Y.Y.Y. Or this another thing - there's internet broadcasting only and wavy broadcasting.
  2. The rebranding thing - or maybe even just renaming: a physical station X started like hundred years BC, then it changed names, formats, maybe owner even - and its latest reincarnation started like couple years ago or something...

Or like this, yeah...

Personally I'd like to see two launch dates, one showing the official Ofcom licence date, such as LBC's which actually started in October 1994 as the original company lost their licence and the station launch date, which was October 1973. Radio Jackie also has a similar issue where we list the launch of the station in 1969 as a pirate, but the licence started in 1997 which keeps the connection with Thames Radio.

Say, what about Radio Caroline? Has it been ever licensed? ;)

1 year, 11 months ago

The Format editing is poor: it's only a dropdown with a few preset items.
Now editing "Crackers", I've found the choice is highly insufficient: cf. that "Dance/Urban" or possible "Jazz" with their actual format where Soul prevails, plus yes, some dancey.
Well, listening to it right now, I wasn't going to copypaste RadioFeeds' "Soul, R&B, Hip Hop", because I can't now possibly hear any hop-hip and have only very poor idea what R&B is, but at least I wanted to add Soul there, with a comma with the rest remaining. No idea how to do this...
Should we somehow EXPAND the list? Or add a custom "other" option? Or change it to fully free text altogether?

PRO1 year, 11 months ago

The term 'Urban' is used to identify a wide range of music of Black origin, including Soul, RnB, Hip-Hop, Rap etc.

In this case, both the category used here and on Radiofeeds is correct.

1 year, 11 months ago

The other phone number is not 'reception' - it must be 'studio' there. No?
I'm about Crackers there...
(They can possibly be not always accurate there anyway, so you might never mind that...)

O'k, I got you, Martin. Although I don't distinguish music such a way as "black or non-black" - rather good or bad:) That implies we've already kinda lost the roots of those terms in question and 'Urban' kinda doesn't tell much, country may be played by a Polish guy from city, etc. :)

1 year, 11 months ago

Found a glitch!

Editing Tone Radio, found their Google+ URL, tried to enter&submit, but it keeps telling me "We didn‘t find that Google+ URL. Want to try again?"
(no "back" nor any "further" or whatever "try again" link from there, by the way).
Yes, and to resolve the issue, I simply clicked that link myself - no delays it's working and showing exactly that same URL in the address bar - which media.info can't seem to digest. Yuck! eh? :)

1 year, 10 months ago

  1. Some edits appear not to be showing at times. E.g., "On 2015-10-01 12:19:32 Josh Lincoln added an email address (Main: office@thisisthecat.com) to The Cat Community Radio" is in the log, but not on the page.
  2. I seem to have not received an email notification about my recent edits ("The Cat") this time.

1 year, 10 months ago

About the notification.
It came just now: 17:34 local time (a few minutes ago).
And the email added is confirmed too (it's in the log anyway).

1 year, 10 months ago

About the email added (to The Cat).
I guess it's a bug of sorts: it was "main" already there ("studio@blabla"), I added "office@blabla" as "main", so it must be a glitch. If we could change SOMETHING in what already exists... Or some automatic/interactive mechanism - like asking if "it's o'k to add another '''same category''' ^thing^ or would you like to change bla-bla?"...

1 year, 10 months ago

The Wiki article for BCB had it that the station had a certain owner, so I decided to try adding it to the station's page here. Then I found out that the site only offers a predefined dropdown list of such owners and this one wasn't in it, so I chose to add that as a tag.
I'm not sure anyway: if a station can be a kind of community station and have an owner at the same time. IIRC, in BCB it was said that the station had a community FORMAT, however a CR license as well (if I got it right). Can an owned station get a CR license?

PRO1 year, 10 months ago

Can an owned station get a CR license?

We list an organisation if they have more than one entry. In this case, a charitable organisation can own a community radio station and a local commercial television station as is the case of with Sheffield Community Media Ltd who operate the Sheffield Live! radio and tv outlets.

We also list Angel Radio Ltd as they have a community licence and a DAB radio station.

However there isn't a commercial company in the UK which owns and operates a community radio station.

1 year, 10 months ago

We should definitely do something with the launch dates - see Starpoint Radio for a direct reference...

1 year, 10 months ago

I've a question.
Under the sorting name field, it says "enter 16 characters". Does it only need 16 characters or it might be less?

PRO1 year, 10 months ago

Yes, that could be clearer. "Up to 16 characters" is what it should say. If you type in more it'll automatically truncate that.

1 year, 10 months ago

Reported somewhere, as I recall...

YouTube channels on station pages get sometimes "reported" "error" - while they might be all right.
For instance, now tried the link on here - no trouble loading a channel while for me it shows "error" against the link on the page here. Does anybody else see "error"?

PRO1 year, 10 months ago

YouTube channels on station pages get sometimes "reported" "error" - while they might be all right.

They only show the amount of users if the YouTube channel has got in the url a name rather than a mix of letters and numbers.

1 year, 10 months ago

I could see an "error" FLAG there!

PRO1 year, 10 months ago

A YouTube channel is just that. It isn't a random link into someone's profile, as was the case on this link. I've removed the channel.

1 year, 9 months ago

"Abstract" for this Hull station needs editing - why can't I?
There's a silly typo there (I checked the source?).

1 year, 9 months ago

For Radio Jackie, two grammar mistakes here:

Radio Jackie had been largely left alone by the authorities until 1985 when the station was raided with equipment and transmitters were taken. Jackie managed to come back on-air and announced that they would be closing down. Hundreds of people visited the station for it's farewell show.

"...with equipment and transmitters were taken" is wrong structure, "it's" is "it is" - not the possessive for it.

PRO1 year, 9 months ago

The structure's fine. The apostrophe is wrong.

1 year, 9 months ago

The changelogs don't seem to be https...

Mike, are you sure Aberdeen Student Radio is active?..
O'k, I've just had a word on Facebook:

We relaunched at the beginning of this academic year. Our shows are currently in the form of podcasts which get uploaded to our mix cloud. We hope to move to live shows soon. I'm not sure that we actually use that site...

PRO1 year, 9 months ago

Thanks for the spot: changelogs are now https. (They're blocked from Google now, since they're not that useful for Google to see.)

1 year, 9 months ago

Shouldn't the Wikipedia "contact" not be in the "Contact ... " section?
The double negative is on purpose, etc.
They won't use a Wiki article to actually contact its subject -- as a rule... The subject might even not know about the article and/or its content...

1 year, 9 months ago

In the page for ABC FM, (as if) their website link brought me to a site of (for) a (presumed) station that has an entirely different name - Bridge FM; and it's written there that they are only going to appear or like that...

1 year, 9 months ago

Who has so far edited and/or is going to edit Radio Lions?
I tried reaching its Wiki page twice: there as if is one, but it's currently being a redirection page to some other station's article, which other station is a HR, too, but is not even in the Islands. Please, who is interested in editing this station's directory and stuff, and who is interested in the station itself and who can provide some initial info to create a normal Wiki article, visit there to improve the situation: click on the "subtitle" link "Radio Lions", then you'll see - you might be considering to visit the talk page there (there's some info there, and I left a message).
Thanks.

1 year, 9 months ago

In "LBC London News":

In 1996, a new consortium 'London News Radio' which included GWR and the Daily Mail and General Trust acquired News Direct and it's sister station Newstalk 1152 and moved to ITN's HQ in Gray's Inn Road, which led to another relaunch as ITN News Direct 97.3, which had a rolling wheel of news, weather, sport and business.

The possessive of it is its, not it's (which latter is a contraction of two words - only).

When will I be able to simply edit those?


Add.: in Time's article, borough's plural is boroughs, borough's is its possessive (image)

1 year, 9 months ago

Somebody please add a postal to the West Wolds Radio (I can't seem to):

72-74 Market Street, YO42 2AB Pocklington

PRO1 year, 9 months ago

Fixed that bug (and added that address).

1 year, 8 months ago

Having added two emails here, I can't see one of them (the one might appear kinda important - complaints about on-air stuff).

PRO1 year, 8 months ago

"Other" - there's a bug there, in that we discard the information about what the other actually means.

A news@ email address should normally be under "Press releases" (which I've done), though we might consider renaming that to "Newsdesk" to be consistent with telephone numbers and Twitter accounts, I suppose.

1 year, 8 months ago

A news@ email address should normally be under "Press releases"...

It might, but I tried to "digest" the information from their website - that's why it was "other" etc. Doubted to pick a preset category, you know...

Well, I meant the "complaints" one - that which is "programme" or something...

"Newsdesk", there or not, it/there was some "News Centre" on the website - thus I did pick the "Newsdesk" one for that.
What does "Press releases" mean there anyway? E-mail is like to receive info, not to get it out. I guess... (image)

1 year, 5 months ago

There's a problem with Celtic Music Radio's Facebook account. I myself added that existing one some time ago, but it states

Celtic Music Radio
Community Page about Celtic Music Radio

Right, I went the link, tried adding that page as a main - there was an oops:

celticmusicradio95FM doesn‘t seem to exist on Facebook. Would you like to go back and try again? If you see this error a lot, please contact us.

Well, should I check if it's a Facebook error?..
Nope, it's not: both prefetch and search find that page easily there.

1 year, 5 months ago

For the former names, is there any set order to the names in the lists?
For some future improvement, I'd like it to be in the chronological REVERSE order - the latest on top etc.

PRO1 year, 5 months ago

There needs to be a way of identifying stations that have closed down. Been involved with so many internet hobbyists has made me realise just how many there are.

1 year, 5 months ago

If they should still are present in the directory, Mike.
Been suggested earlier. There are a couple of categories of such "closed down" stations: 1) that won't relaunch, 2) that will; so, if they are in the directory, I'd suggest we only had a tag or whatever category that states the station is out of service. Literally closed down? Non-existent whatsoever any more? Well, I doubt our directory would need being a graveyard, don't you think, Mike? I mean media.info doesn't seem to me a history site:)

PRO1 year, 4 months ago

I've read your reply a few times Josh and I'm confused by what you're saying, (I.E. if you are saying anything that adds any value or you're just saying it's been mentioned before).

Either way, the outcome without it being resolved would be as you rightly say a "graveyard" of dead information. James?

1 year, 4 months ago

Somebody take a look at Radio Plymouth's "Mobile apps" section. Never seen such. Tried editing - found nothing in there!
I see four empty "iOS" lines there... Couldn't find anything in the editing mode...

Nah, those iOSs are almost everywhere, different quantity.
James might be messing with some new templates here?

PRO1 year, 4 months ago

Looks like a bug. Will go and look.

(I'd rather we open new threads for each query, rather than having a long one).

In terms of stations ceasing broadcasting, or titles ceasing being in print, my initial thought is to remove them. However, it might make sense to be able to mark them as no longer available for archival purposes. That's a bit more work (partially because it impacts many more pages) but it occurs to me might be a better plan. Thoughts?

PRO1 year, 4 months ago

For me, it'd make sense to delete them....

1 year, 4 months ago

In terms of stations ceasing broadcasting, or titles ceasing being in print, my initial thought is to remove them. However, it might make sense to be able to mark them as no longer available for archival purposes. That's a bit more work (partially because it impacts many more pages) but it occurs to me might be a better plan. Thoughts?

Archivisation, a subdirectory, in case a station or title should re-emerge.
It can be tagging with a "death" tag, the engine sinks it to the archive. Whether it can be edited and/or resurfaced by any user or only by 'editors', depends...

1 year, 4 months ago

If you add a URL somewhere, make it the full URL - which means you don't start with www but with http or https. It'll make an error otherwise.

1 year, 1 month ago

rhbonline/ doesn‘t seem to exist on Facebook. Facebook said Unsupported get request. Object with ID 'rhbonline' does not exist, cannot be loaded due to missing permissions, or does not support this operation. Please read the Graph API documentation at https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api.Would you like to go back and try again? If you see this error a lot, please contact us.

It does: https://www.facebook.com/rhbonline/

1 year, 1 month ago

Should I contact Facebook? Still the same - tried just now!..
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