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By James Cridland
Posted 3 December 2014, 9.25am est
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You'll notice that you can't post new topics any more on Media UK, as we transition over to this new discussion area. Older threads will remain on Media UK for now.

Here's the place for feedback about this new discussion area: it's a work in progress for now, and we'd like to help with any questions you have.

Comments

2 years, 10 months ago

Replying in the "test" now, I unticked "email me", but next time it was, and now it is ticked again.

I'd like to have it that the interface remembers my ticks.

<br>

Well, also you mentioned you would "disable HTML" or like that. Why would you and what does it mean exactly?

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

Good morning, Josh. The "email me replies to this topic" defaults to 'on', at the moment, but I'll make that remember your last setting shortly. What I'd also like to happen is for you to be able to reply to that email and it automatically posts it for you, but that might be a little more interesting to do.

Regarding HTML - until this morning, you could type in HTML into this comment box, and it would happily reproduce that HTML on the page. This isn't a great idea for security - or spam! - and this is now disabled throughout the discussion system here. You posted some HTML in your comment - the <br> - and this is now no longer going to work in comments.

In response to another query in the 'test' topic, which I'm about to delete because it was a test, someone pointed out that single line breaks were being ignored. This is Markdown standard, but I've enabled a setting in the Markdown parser we use to allow single line breaks to appear.

Thanks for your patience as I rebuild the commenting system: since this is the third I've built, it's considerably better than versions 1 and 2!

2 years, 10 months ago

James, would you disable the "Post new topic" button on Media.UK?
You can just add «disable="disable"» or like that maybe. Or even better: redirect to an announcement "We're moving. Thanks for your participation, bla bla". (image)

Have you taken a look at Operaforums yet, by the way?

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

redirect to an announcement "We're moving. Thanks for your participation, bla bla".
That's exactly what it does! I'd rather keep the links in there, instead of make button mysteriously stop working.

Operaforums - I've not looked. Let me know what you like about it specifically, and I'll attempt to build-in features that it does. Most important, though, is to simply build features that lots of people use.

2 years, 10 months ago

We can continue this conversation over here I’m closing this thread, just for my sanity! ;)
You link to this place there is broken.
(Testing if I can go without a spare line after a quote, along the way...)

2 years, 10 months ago

(Testing if I can go without a spare line after a quote, along the way...)

Nope.
(I hope you can edit (and delete) others' posts, James.)
(Well, and wasn't your decision to close the 'test' thread a bit premature? There's something to test yet.)

2 years, 10 months ago

Let me know what you like about it specifically, and I'll attempt to build-in features that it does.

(You need a spare line after a quote, James.)
Well, apart from the notifications functionality (I could elaborate), there are timestamps and permalinks on posts and "tools/options" (there - to report and (time limited) edit) and "quote" buttons (the latter works to quote a selected piece of text also).
I could message a screenshot or two to your Fb account (or to the Media.UK page) if needed.

2 years, 10 months ago

I could message a screenshot or two to your Fb account (or to the Media.UK page) if needed.

Just did (personal; make sure to move me off the "Others" folder there).

2 years, 10 months ago

"Code" text which in other browsers looks fainter that normal text (using backticks vs usual), here in Opera 11 looks bold!
Which styles are you using? Please define fonts for those.

2 years, 10 months ago

And quoted text in comments here in Opera with no zoom looks fairly small-sized - is it undefined?
Well, I could use some zooming here - the column width allow this, just sayin'...

Wow! only 'plussed' once - 110% -- the page jumped straight up to the pane by width, the fonts leaped immensely too... Though a bit of more contrast wouldn't harm...
Let me think - if not "odd-even", but rather the main text would lie on whatever colour - while quotes on white, huh? Or on yellow?
(Well, user schemes would be nice, but... However. I should suggest others should say their word on that matter.)

2 years, 10 months ago

...the column width allow this...

"Allows", sorry.

Well, I must say I've used backticks often not to show codes but simply to make certain words less prominent (like "reverse-emphasis" of sorts).
So, we can't use straight HTML - could you please consider adding some <small> element? Of course it's in the case if you couldn't define certain fonts I mentioned above.

2 years, 10 months ago

The link here links, but it is no good:

This is Markdown standard, but I've enabled a setting in the Markdown parser we use to allow single line breaks to appear.

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

We use Markdown; but I don't plan to support every single Markdown possibility. I can't quite think of when we might use 'code' view, for example. I also agree that the blockquote styling is a little odd currently: it looks quite nice in the main article, though.

On the desktop, the font size is driven by the optimum length of a line of text. You'll find it gets considerably bigger if you make your browser window wider (wide enough to be over 1,100 pixels wide). Conversely, if you make your browser window a little narrower, you'll lost the right-hand column and instead the text will fill the entire screen.

My aim with these forums has always been to keep them simple and fast. That's why we don't have silly user levels, signatures, or anything else. I'm very unlikely to include things like font sizes and colours. (You can of course put headers in, but I think this is unlikely in a comment.)

Finally, the link did link; but I don't think links work in quotations.

Finally #2: I support major browsers, and Opera isn't one. That said, Opera now uses webkit, and therefore you should get full support via my support for Chrome or Safari.

2 years, 10 months ago

  1. Morning! (image)
  2. "My aim with these forums has always been to keep them simple and fast."
    That's o'k. Then again, you'll need to that "up-to-fresh" autoscroll and timestamps would be nice (to achieve the former I guess you'll need to assign comments with permalinks or HTML bookmarks somehow).
    2a.

    (You can of course put headers in, but I think this is unlikely in a comment.)

I'll check it out (it's a test):

This is a heading.

Or is this one?

This must be it.

2 extra: I don't have any ideas how one can put quotes within a list when we can't use direct HTML... Maybe I'll be attempting some testing occasionally...

  1. "...but I don't think links work in quotations."
    In Markdown, they perfectly must:

    This is a link.

  2. "...Opera now uses webkit..."
    No, it's not Opera - it's only called the same name: THE real Opera and that other browser based on Chromium are effectively different browsers - they're even almost incompatible with each other for now.
    And yes, version 12(.17) of the REAL Opera is still supported by Opera ASA (I'm all fingers in the forum - I'll tell you if (when) it's changed).

2 years, 10 months ago

NB: The second "1-2" are to understood as "3-4";)

So, about quoting in lists:

  1. Quote 1.
    Item 1.

  2. Item 2:

    Quote 2.

  3. Quote 3.
    Item 3.

  4. Quote 4.
    Item 4.

  5. Quote 5.
    Item 5.

  6. Quote 6.
    Item 6.

2 years, 10 months ago

Quote-list test 2:

  1. Quote 1.
    Item 1.

  2. Quote 2.

Item 2.
3.

Quote 3.

Item 3.

2 years, 10 months ago

As I've said, it's NOT POSSIBLE to include a quotation starting a list item without HTML.
While Markdown supports rendering straight HTML put within its own parsing (not otherwise). So I could easily quote anything in Markdown lists using "<blockquote>":

  1. <blockquote>Quote 1.</blockquote> You might be right, blah-blah-blah.
  2. <blockquote>Quote 2.</blockquote> I can't disagree more, blah-blah-blah.

2 years, 10 months ago

James, the fonts of who made the last comment are very small and WAY too PALE grey on a grey background - a microscope needed (Chrome, zoom 125% - other fonts are good). Please amend that.

2 years, 10 months ago

James, the fonts of who made the last comment are very small and WAY too PALE grey on a grey background - a microscope needed (Chrome, zoom 125% - other fonts are good).

Well, it depends on the screen's physical properties as well: the above observation's made on mine at the normal angle (I don't have to do acrobatics to do web usually).

2 years, 10 months ago

James, the fonts of who made the last comment are very small and WAY too PALE grey on a grey background - a microscope needed (Chrome, zoom 125% - other fonts are good).

Same with Opera 11, 110% zoom (full width).

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

I've no plans to support 'real' Opera. And I agree that the pale text is too pale.

"Email me replies" has been a little flaky, because it wasn't always emailing. I've realised the error of my ways, and the latest build now contains a corrected script.

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

And this is a test posting.

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

And I think here's one more.

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

Good. And those tests allow me to confirm that the 'email me replies to this topic' now remembers what you set it to last time.

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

Our twitterbot is now back, too - @minfodiscuss is now happily tweeting away (on replies only for now)

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

Then again, you'll need to that "up-to-fresh" autoscroll and timestamps would be nice (to achieve the former I guess you'll need to assign comments with permalinks or HTML bookmarks somehow).

While 'up to fresh' is a feature I'm probably going to leave for now, email and tweets will now scroll to the actual comment being referenced, using a permalink. Here's a link to the comment here saying 'And I think here's one more'.

2 years, 10 months ago

When will the threads on the other site be migrated across?

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

Good question, Art. It's not entirely simple to do that, but I'd like to do that at some stage in the next few months. Let's make sure I can add all the right features back again first.

2 years, 10 months ago

The "last post" data became visible now (in Chrome).
Links? I can't see any per-comment links, James.
[And I made some typos in those posts, I hope you get it right there...
Also I hope you'll introduce editing and stuff here come a day. Right?]

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

There are per-comment links now in the code, and used in emails and tweets, but they aren't visible on this page yet. They will be though; probably in a hover-over, but perhaps making the time of the post clickable (that's the way that Google+ and Twitter do it).

Editing? Yes, I want this more than you, I bet! And glad you've spotted the tweak to the topic index pages, removing the little grey text.

And now's the time to mention that we'll be pulling the image from social media accounts over to this page, so perhaps now might be the way to get rid of the swearing from yours.

2 years, 10 months ago

Maybe I will, maybe I'll register to this site specifically, or both... (image)

2 years, 10 months ago

Done - you're gonna owe me that! (image)

2 years, 10 months ago

Remembering the 50th Anniversary of a UK Radio Pioneer
Last comment 23 minutes ago by

A cosmetic amendment would be to display "No comments made yet..." in place of the current output now. I guess;)

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

Agreed, and hopefully you won't see that any more. I also now have editing/deleting capabilities in the browser, rather than doing that in a database editor.

Ordinary users will have that soon; you'll only be able to edit a post if nobody else has replied to it, as before.

2 years, 10 months ago

Putting the focus into the reply box is not a VERY great idea - what do you think?
You'd better do something with those permalinks in that respect, will you? I think it could be somehow duplicated with in-page bookmarks for that purpose if you know what I mean.

2 years, 10 months ago

Yeah - for me, it's just a BAD idea. I always use keyboard scrolling - and you can guess why...
Well, Google Chrome allows for PgUp/PgDn keyboard page navigation even in this case (not any other arrow keys!) - but it is ONLY this browser (unaware of nuOpera - never gonna use), any other I know of will be stuck in that darned box till I change the focus. Please discard that.

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

Oh no, I thought autofocus was a great idea, but you're right, it's a rubbish one, since it scrolls all readers to the bottom! Oops.

In-page bookmarks: yes, yes. Will go and sort.

2 years, 10 months ago

A minor issue: with 125% zoom I have your 'mail' tickbox close to the middle of the pane/page, then there's huooooge spacing and, starting "Email me", the rest of that scribula is at the next line - right beneath the "post" button.
You could just remove the spacing, but I'd rather see you have reshuffled it a bit: like "Email me replies to this topic:", then some SMALL padding, and the tickbox.

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

Permalinks to comments are now available: just like the design pattern from Google/Twitter, the links are on the "6 minutes ago" timestamp. So: here is a link to your 'done' comment earlier.

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

I've fixed the errant spacing you see in some resolutions.

2 years, 10 months ago

Permalinks to comments are now available...

I see (image)


No, James.
What you just did is you removed any and all spacing/padding there.
But:

  1. You need to have SOME spacing between the submit button and the tickbox: with lower (or no) zooming a user can possibly misplace their pointer (non-lethal, but still).
  2. If you do not reshuffle that in the way I said, you need to END the phrase with a full stop.
    (Though I'd rather see it reshuffled - with that colon I hope you noticed: it's nice, isn't it?)

2 years, 10 months ago

Another instance of unborn-yet accuracy: you could make the entire "Here’s our posting policy" the link - ending it with a full stop, will you? (image)

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

I can't replicate the "removed any padding". The tickbox still has lots of padding around it at any resolution I'm viewing it in. Screenshot?

Cheers about the advice about full stops: but I'm happy without.

2 years, 10 months ago

Cheers about the advice about full stops: but I'm happy without.

You're a bad, bad, naughty boy, and Santa Claus won't bring you anything (image)

2 years, 10 months ago

James, Markdown's "<hr>" seems not working either way - I tried both dashes and underscores.
That might seem to add some extra vertical spacing for better logical structuring, though, I'm not sure...

2 years, 10 months ago

Well, and if you're going to attend that non-Latin characters problem, we could make it out together how to better do it.
For one, it just took the .html files to get resaved in UTF-8 instead of then default ANSI - that's all.

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

This is a cliché, but I am testing again

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

Я обвиняю россиян.

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

There we are. Changed collation from latin to utf8_unicode_ci, like I should have done in the first place. I've also spotted one other place where this was used, so that's now fixed (mostly, you'd spot that in news headlines on the front page). Я надеюсь, что вы счастливы сейчас, молодой человек.

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

(In all seriousness, Josh, would you mind responding, so I can check that this change has trickled through to the email alert? Спасибо.)

2 years, 10 months ago

Утречко!
Как спалось?

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

Лежа.

Thanks, that works even in emails.

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

Josh - you'll note that you can now unsubscribe from email alerts (on a topic by topic basis). Just click the link toward the bottom of the email.

2 years, 10 months ago

Лежа.

Who's that Лежа? A friend of yours?

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

I think Google might have let me down there. "How did you sleep?", you asked. I replied... "lying down". Google úgy tűnik, hogy a móka meg mindent.

2 years, 10 months ago

"lying down"

"Лёжа".

2 years, 10 months ago

"How did you sleep?", you asked.

Nah, it rather was "You slept well?" or "Did you sleep well?" - not the method. This syntax/sequence is settled in normal Russian speech.

2 years, 10 months ago

A glitch in appearance (performance).
I'm with Google Chome with this site's zoom set at 125%. Being such I started a thread; when I submitted it, it appeared like this - not an optical on pane but exactly on page. I thought I'd broken something with the smilie, then I just tried zooming out. Looked nice! I zoomed back to 125% - it kept looking nice. So I mean, I just "repaired" it by once zooming back & forth (image) What do you think it was?

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

No idea. Looks like a bug with Chrome for Windows (assuming that's what you're using).

2 years, 10 months ago

In the old chatter, I can't even see threads normal anymore... (image)

2 years, 10 months ago

Do you dislike punctuation, James?
If it's not a title, a sentence must contain an ending stop - it's just part of it.

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

Not true in the case of links, bullet points, and advertising slogans, to name but three examples.

2 years, 10 months ago

"Be the first to comment!" would be better then.
And what about "Email me replies to this topic: []"?

2 years, 10 months ago

How come I liked media.info on Facebook and didn't notice that?
Sleep-walking? (image)

2 years, 10 months ago

I've found that the google ads cover up some of the text on chrome on android.

There is no link to find the discussions on the mobile site on the main page.

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

Hi, Peter. Writing this on Chrome for Android myself, I'm a bit confused about the ads - any chance of a screenshot? To james@media.info if you like. I made a few tweaks to the ads today, which may have inadvertently had an effect. Thanks for your help.

And you're right; the navigation to the discussions section is missing. You can get there from the mobile view: but it doesn't display too well yet: you'll find it in the drop down menu (top-left of every page).

PRO2 years, 10 months ago

Peter - I've tracked down the ads issue (on an Android phone or iPhone it did different things to an Android tablet..!). Thanks for that.

2 years, 9 months ago

On the "Thank you" post-edit page there's no main navigation (orange) table/menu, while the "Radio" link in the minor, blue bar seems not working: in Chrome, twice tried - says "not found".

2 years, 9 months ago

James, shift your "Email me" in front of the box - and put a colon there, will you.
Happy New Year...

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

Nope: labels should come after controls - though the layout is pretty awful in some resolutions currently for some reason.

Don't quite understand the "post-edit" page. I didn't think I'd written the code for editing posts yet. Oh... for editing a media title? I'll go and take a look at that. I should turn breadcrumbs off for "edit" views. (And ads, come to that).

2 years, 9 months ago

After I edited Storm FM, I happened on a post-edit "thank you" page - there there's no orange table-menu, only the auxiliary a-href navi-bar (in the usual blue), from where the "Radio" link led to "not found" twice.

About your false idea: here you'll be able to find the exact way it should be about labels.

2 years, 9 months ago

In the next thread of mine, there's an 'author' link - a normal looking blue underlined link "Josh Lincoln" - but it's "not found". In the old place, if such a user was accessing there with a "partner account", their link showed their account there, IIRC.

2 years, 9 months ago

James, can you assign all the comments blocks with a class to lose the background colour upon hovering? No harm, eh?
I see you've made threads to stay;)

2 years, 9 months ago

I guess we're using a new system for quoting, and bolding, yet I see no link to guide us on how to do that.

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

We are. My apologies. I fixed your last post. To bold, surround it with two asterisks; and to quote, start the paragraph with a > just like you do in email.

2 years, 9 months ago

Strong emphasis:
word
or
word

Emphasis/italics:
word
or
word

To make a link:
[visible text](your link)

To show the parsing (code) start the line with four spaces; or if inline, embrace your needed piece of text/input within a pair of backticks.

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

Ian - you'll now notice a simple "formatting info" link to the top right of the commenting box, with more details.

2 years, 9 months ago

There a mere blank page loads without even any source code to talk about.

Take this, guys (image)

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

Lincoln - there's a little bit of JavaScript that opens a small piece of information underneath. It doesn't open a new blank page. Not in any decent browser. ;)

2 years, 9 months ago

Well, even in Firefox 34, I get a page opening up which says [object Object] about a second after revealing the formatting info. You better look at you JavaScript.

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

Odd. Will do. Its only jQuery...

2 years, 9 months ago

Lincoln - there's a little bit of JavaScript that opens a small piece of information underneath. It doesn't open a new blank page. Not in any decent browser. ;)

James - it - is - basically - blank.

2 years, 9 months ago

Its only jQuery...

Whose jQuery?..

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

Hello from Firefox. I can confirm that the 'Object Object' bug is now fixed.

2 years, 9 months ago

So then, any chance of restring LinkedIn logins soonish? I tried to register for a Mediauk.info account without success - it told me:-

"Good news!
You don't need to register with us, because you've already been here before.
Last time you logged in, you successfully used this website with your Media UK account.
Log in"

2 years, 9 months ago

Just noticed my typo. Is there a facility to edit new posts before someone has replied - like on the old site?

2 years, 9 months ago

Try to log in as it says. I remember I needed to - however I "was logged in".

2 years, 9 months ago

The point is Josh that I don't want to use my Google account to login - thus I was trying to setup a media.info account but it would not let me due to the error message I gave.

LinkedIn login would be even better.

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

I don't understand that, Glyn, so will look at the code when I'm able. Sorry about that.

LinkedIn is a horrid faff, but let me see what I can manage.

2 years, 9 months ago

James, pages load with difficulties and in some browsers errors are frequent.

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

pages load with difficulties and in some browsers errors are frequent

Screenshots of errors would be really handy. I don't use "some browsers", and I'm not having any issue with pageloads today.

2 years, 9 months ago

It was in Russian, no number; and it was an old Opera. But actually, now in Chrome... it... is... reeallliie... slll......
I don't think it much depends on the browser. Though here errors are much more seldom.

2 years, 9 months ago

What about spelling error suggestions when processing a query for station search?
I just typed in "Lincoln Cty Radio", most "gross" search engines suggest corrections in such cases... I understand there'll be needed a language database then...

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

I do know how to code that (in the same way as Google); language databases are no good for that, since if you mistype most media titles the "correct" spelling won't be in a database anyway...

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

PS: For everyone's sanity (well, certainly mine), I am going to close this discussion thread now we've a pretty new site feedback area.

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

Ah. Turns out I can't, while keeping the comments visible... ! Will have to fix that on another day.

2 years, 9 months ago

You have to attend this unstable page loading. Or else I'll start a thread:)

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

If I understood what you meant, I would. But feel free to start a thread.

2 years, 9 months ago

For now, in Chrome:

No data received

[Reload] (Hide details)
Unable to load the web page because the server sent no data.
Error code: ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE

It is very often, or pages simply load for ages (I'll write a poem, right). Not all the time, though.

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

I have a number of automatic alerts running, and they show no issues like that. (The site has only been down once in the past few months). You will be connected to this website via either Warsaw, Stockholm or Milan (as far as I know there's no way to find out which). Some of my tests run via US and Irish addresses. I might see whether I can force some through an Eastern European IP.

You might wish to try to connect via https://media.info rather than the http version. That'll be secure and encrypted, and may give you a better connection as a result. Worth a try.

2 years, 9 months ago

Perhaps, but I can't get to the chatter now. You forgot something?

2 years, 9 months ago

You need to restructure your discussions now - it's an abomination.

And now this:

The server at media.info can't be found because the DNS look-up failed. DNS is the network service that translates a website's name to its Internet address. This error is most often caused by having no connection to the Internet or a misconfigured network. It can also be caused by an unresponsive DNS server or a firewall preventing Google Chrome from accessing the network.

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

That is an error from your own ISP, Josh. Your internet connection is not very well, by the looks of things.

"I can't get to the chatter now" - what do you mean? Page errors?

2 years, 9 months ago

No, the structure error.
The "DISCUSSIONS" link led me back to the "feedback" over and over again - I guess it "inherited" that temporary redirection. I had to go back to the main page and hit the "radio" text link in the 'recent discussions' preview block. Then I couldn't get back to the "feedback" other than hitting a thread from that preview.
You'll need to rearrange this structure. "ABOUT US" "didn't exist", by the way...

2 years, 9 months ago

I suggest the following.

  1. The main page.
    From there: 1) Site feedback; 2) the main sections ("Radio", "TV", etc.).
  2. Each main section will contain its "Discussion".

This way "Site feedback" won't be in any media section - for it's for the site not particular media types.

Otherwise, you can have:
1) main page;
2) discussions -
from there a) site feedback, b'c'd''') media types' discussion sections.

"About us" doesn't fit either way. Perhaps you can have it as a main page separate sudirectory.
This'll look as the following:
you're on the main page - the path bar looks just "Media.info";
you hit "About us" - it gets "Media.info About us", here's a dead end;
you can have "Contact us" from the main page if you like - "Media.info Contact us";
you can hit "Site feedback" from the main page (first variant) - "Media.info Site feedback";
the radio discussion, first variant -- "Media.info Radio Discussion";
"Site feedback" second variant - "Media.info Discussions Site feedback";
the radio discussions second variant - "Media.info Discussions Radio".

2 years, 9 months ago

You still need to amend this "navigation":

MEDIA.INFO ABOUT US DISCUSSIONS

The "DISCUSSIONS" link leads only to the "Site feedback" now.
And I said - lose "About us", make it separate and a dead end.

2 years, 9 months ago

And as I said, about "About", the "link" goes to nowhere:

media.info
Error 404: Page Not Found
This page does not exist.

info@media.info

2 years, 9 months ago

O'k, I get it about "About" - "http://media.info/about-us/discussions/site-feedback"; still why do you need that misleading "discussions" part!!? And I'd like to have a simpler means to return to our Radio chatter than hitting random links several times in hugely diverse parts of the page.
Your structure seems multidimensional - thus you'd better think of something multidimentional to navigate with, too. You have like "UK/not UK", then "Radio/not radio", then something else - like this site feedback...

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

"About-us" should be a page about the website (though currently isn't, I appreciate). There's a "discussions' portion of the URL since every other section needs that, and to allow for expansion in future.

To return to Radio Chatter, you can click "Radio" then "Discussions".

Navigation is quite frustrating on a site as large as this one, I appreciate.

2 years, 9 months ago

James, it took all my thinking abilities to reach the feedback today. The thing got complicated by the fact that there was no "about us" on the horizon.

First I tried all the menubars here, then remembered that this section's rooted in that absent one, so...

Eventually I reckoned that there should be something in the "tombstone" - yeah, still took two clicks ok.

What is that "site map"? Haven't tried yet...

2 years, 9 months ago

Oh my gOd! It got rendered as a heading - all of that^doh^.
Would you mind editing that? (When will we get our editing, by the way?)

PRO2 years, 9 months ago

Edited. We prioritise all features, like post-comment editing, based on requests from users: and you're (for now) the only person who's asked for it.

2 years, 9 months ago

+1 for post-comment editing. (but only after you've restored LinkedIn logins!)

2 years, 8 months ago

At last!.. (image)

Comments about our website? Use our "site feedback" discussion area.

This is nice (image)

2 years, 8 months ago

James, I see you've made pages, and old chatter threads are accessible now.
But you know what? Here in feedback, the pages are 3 too, and all but one are empty.
I saw that already in a site section somewhere. Why don't you make it dynamical? Need help? I'll ask pals...

PRO2 years, 8 months ago

You're right, and I'll update that code shortly.

2 years, 6 months ago

I'm checking if I can enter more than two linebreaks and it'll be displayed accordingly...
As far as I remember it didn't.

Three.
Well, now I tried using a separating line a couple of times. For the reasons of tidiness and logical separation in our comments, it's meaningful to use more than one empty line between logical blocks - because when you use quoting, you already have a double break prior to your answer to the quote. So I tried the rule (like <hr>).
I wonder, if my above "three br trial" hasn't worked, if some special markup "<br>" could be rendered...
Let's see if it works anyway...

2 years, 6 months ago

On some head pages, we can see a few items that are the latest updated. On the "Radio" index, it's 4 items.
Why not have some log?

2 years, 6 months ago

Having a look at a station's page here, noticed some people listed there twice with different jobs there. I mean if one reads it plain stupid, it looks like different people with the same name.
What other ways to list staff could be thinkable of? Again - considering editing capabilities...

2 years, 6 months ago

Just took a look at a job here - the map is wrong: instead of Lincoln, Lincolnshire, it shows an absolutely irrelevant place in - South America!
Yes, I checked the source - it seems supposed to be L-Lincs still... Check it out yourselves: https://media.info/radio/jobs/presenter-co-presenter

PRO2 years, 6 months ago

That was a very strange bug, Josh - thank you. I use the global edition of the website, but you clearly use the UK edition, and it was that edition that was doing some too-clever-by-half work. Thanks - all fixed.

2 years, 6 months ago

Longer subtitle get truncated at higher zooms: (image)
The upper is 125%, the lower is 150%. Right in the middle, I reckon...

2 years, 6 months ago

O'k, ^it was the full URL. Let me try truncating it:
(image)
Huh?

PRO2 years, 6 months ago

Hi, Josh,

Yes, overflow is hidden, so if you zoom fonts but not layout, it'll progressively hide more of the text.

2 years, 6 months ago

Wait a minute - I only have a single zooming option, don't I?
Ctrl+ and Ctrl-, right? I've not learned it yet, but I've seen in a site's sourcecode it's rendered how to handle the user's zooming. Your site seems to have been set to "device-width" or something, hasn't it? Others start to expand to the right etc. and get horizontally scrollable.

Besides, there are a couple of other overflow values to try, and there are options to show hidden stuff - eg, on hover (I do not personally like how it looks/renders - the latter, but maybe something else exists?).
Well, I say what? I don't have two zooms, or three zooms - I just zoom, and I'm unaware of any "detailed" options you seemed to refer to. M?

2 years, 6 months ago

On the "Radio-UK" index page just now: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=680430305401894
(image)
The links (URLs) are the same.

PRO2 years, 6 months ago

That's a very useful bug report, thank you. We've had issues over the past half hour, and that really helps understand where the issue is.

2 years, 6 months ago

You're welcome.
And would you mind deleting my previous extra posts here - ## 1272 & 1273? The thread's looking untidy.

Yup, and yet we're having an issue.
You jQueried comment boxes, haven't you? Well, they extend all right, but then, trying to click the "post" button, the area contracts WITH the button: the button slips up instead of executing the action, and I have to "catch up" with it again to eventually click to succeed.
Try it yourself (yourselves), will you? (image)

2 years, 5 months ago

A (jQuery-less) transition now happens on the comments box to enlarge it when you're typing in there, to encourage longer comments. Not that it's been an issue so far, mind you!

...they extend all right, but then, trying to click the "post" button, the area contracts WITH the button: the button slips up instead of executing the action, and I have to "catch up" with it again to eventually click to succeed.

And another nuance. When I change/lose focus -- not that only clicking outside the box, not even only checking on another tab - even switching to another application not changing the tab nor focus -- then the box contracts. Well, when I come back to the tab, the box auto-expands back, no monkey-business, but still it behaves that way.

2 years, 5 months ago

Well, it struck me the button gets focused after the attempt - so I checked pushing "Enter" -- it worked.

2 years, 5 months ago

James, how'bout our promised editing capability here?
I kinda miss it somehow. On forums, I usually have a bunch of tools: edit/preview or both, quoting capability often.
Some offer a tool to "vote" on a comment, like you had it that place too. Reporting is often...

2 years, 5 months ago

James C. said:

Incidentally, feel free to open new topics rather than make this (and similar) the longest topics in the world... (wink)

You don't seem to have seen long topics, James. I could point you at a thread with a few thousand replies in it, would you like? (image)

PRO2 years, 5 months ago

Not in all one page you haven't...

2 years, 5 months ago

Besides, I prefer starting generic topics - like that "Stations editing" seems to be (seems because the topic could've been even wider - encompassing all the sorts of our stations data, their acquiring, rendering, updating, etc.).

2 years, 5 months ago

Not in all one page you haven't...

Right, but whose problem is it, excuser moi?
I mean I've seen forums, etc., and all of them have presets to cut threads into pages. I don't know if you're going to do that here yet, James - the old site has it, doesn't it?
Right, first you shall introduce the go to last or rather go to first unread feature - otherwise we'll all die here. (image)

2 years, 5 months ago

James, you haven't fixed the Page 1-2-3 issue, have you?
Maybe you should consider some auto-paging standard? What did you have on Media.UK?

PRO2 years, 5 months ago

I haven't fixed that yet, no. Good spot: will do so shortly.

(The "standard" is no such thing - but Media UK used a relatively simple pagination.)

PRO2 years, 5 months ago

It's an article I do for RAIN News. RAIN are one of the many news feeds that media.info uses.

2 years, 5 months ago

Seems to look more like a reference list though (image)

A crazy idea here. In some future, what about an app connecting media articles with media.info?
Like "Media.info has a topic about that!" or, if not yet - "Start a topic on Media.info! :D" (image)

2 years, 5 months ago

James, where's my News on the Go? Deleted?

2 years, 4 months ago

James, I've spotted comments' permalinks are not in https: like http://media.info/about-us/discussions/site-feedback/our-latest-site-updates#1500.

2 years, 2 months ago

James, how's there about threads' pagination and loading >to the first unread< or something?
There are variants. For example, if some sort of that pagination is present, in the threads list we could have links/buttons to each page. However, if we want to definitely have a "to first unread", the above mentioned variant would be an excess. (Unless you'd like to experiment with that a bit.)

PRO2 years, 2 months ago

On the "to do" list are...

  • pagination for discussion threads
  • marking threads as 'read', and keeping unread positions
  • email alerts for original posters upon reply (currently there are none)
  • 'watch this thread' functionality for people who want email alerts
  • 'watch this title' functionality within the directory for brand managers and similar (which would probably send daily digests of changes)

The last one on this list will probably be written first. The discussion system is a very, very small part of traffic here, and thus revenue. The directory is the important thing.

2 years, 2 months ago

Well, some forums do not have any "unread" functionality. However, it is usual that a user can at least go either to the first page or the last (which in most cases generally works for "scrolling" to the latest replies).
And there are many forums (most of them specialised) that have it all: notifications, "read"/"unread", buttons to pages, and - apart from the "title" link (top) - a button to the first new reply (if there is any). I guess it's a certain standard - like some ready form... You had a good "standard" on your Media.UK yourself though:)

PRO2 years, 2 months ago

Just for you, Josh, you'll now see a link to the latest posting from discussion topic indexes. That's a quick fix.

2 years, 2 months ago

Why "view"?
I'll check it out from the "title" page... Aha, no, it's not so on the index page.*

*Fresh edit: Now it is.

2 years ago

James, how is it going?
I got two identical "Thank you" messages (in a row) on my mail yesterday. A bug?
Do you write those yourself, by the way?:)

And having taken a look into the chatter, would you move this here to the feedback area? If it's to live, certainly...

2 years ago

The Ireland section is underdeveloped.

And on this and other pages within it I currently found a similar bug now - a tripled news item:

Dublin City FM celebrate impressive listener figures
Dublin City FM celebrate impressive listener figures
Dublin City FM celebrate impressive listener figures

(same link in all three)

PRO2 years ago

I'm not seeing that tripled bug, Josh.

But, I do agree that the localised editions are a little underdeveloped. In some cases, it doesn't work so well (particularly /radio/data which really is a bit broken); and I'm thinking about reworking how the editions work. I might drop the concept of 'editions', and make media.info look a little more global in reach. That would complement our own editorial (which already is).

Filters would be useful for the directory, and really ought to exist for search, too. If I've selected Ireland, I ought only really to see Irish services.

Australia will (unsurprisingly) be one of the next editions to appear, and I think that'll then given the opportunity to rewrite how the editions work for everyone.

2 years ago

And you know what?
It'd be meaningful to show the Site feedback updates on the main pages. Rather MORE meaningful than (just) showing such on subsections' index pages such as Radio and so like.
Yes. I posted the above comment - and the thread update was shown on the UK Radio page but NOT on the main UK one. Which does seem not exactly logical, do you think?

I'll start a new, bugs specialty thread soon in order to sort things right. Yes, you have an "updates" one, but I see it being rather "outgoing" while I'm having in mind an incoming one...

2 years ago

Australia will (unsurprisingly) be one of the next editions to appear, and I think that'll then given the opportunity to rewrite how the editions work for everyone.

Are you an Australian yet? ;)

PRO2 years ago

I don't think that "Site feedback" threads should appear on either the main index page, nor on the subsection index pages. This is a small, quiet, subsection of the discussions, and shouldn't be being promoted elsewhere on the website.

I'd rather, if we can, use individual threads for bugs, rather than a massive long thread like this one. That way I can close individual threads once those bugs are fixed, or suggestions done.

2 years ago

I don't think that. It's kinda messy.
Myself having been on quite a few forums, gerenic threads are easier to find - save that nobody's getting obliged to read some 10 pages back...
By the way, what is with those pages?..
So, I say... Most general/useful threads even might get pinned in a way if possible.

On another forum, I have even proposed an additional sorting tool - tagging. Such might categorise threads/posts, thus making the entire section more structured.

2 years ago

I don't think that "Site feedback" threads should appear on either the main index page, nor on the subsection index pages. This is a small, quiet, subsection of the discussions, and shouldn't be being promoted elsewhere on the website.

But the participants should get notified somehow on replies there, don't you think?
Usually I visit a forum and fairly straight away can see where there's response. Notifications may vary by type: one place they're like on Fb or Google, another it might be a pop-up or something like on Wiki. But in any way I can check things in a couple of clicks right away tops - easy reach matters.

1 year, 10 months ago

On the UK-Radio main page, again, I saw all the three "preview" discussion threads being from the TV chatter.

Now this, you don't have a direct, one-click link here to the feedback area from index pages, but in here there's an excess of an extra <<Comments about our website? Use our "site feedback" discussion area.>> one - kinda "loop":)
It's no lethal, however...;)

1 year, 10 months ago

There's still this bug about the (Facebook at least) sharer: a new tab opens, then after the business it loads a duplicate of the page just shared.

PRO1 year, 10 months ago

You're right, it does. I've fixed it to no longer spawn a new window, so it'll go to Facebook, share the page, and then load it back again.

1 year, 10 months ago

O'k, but you know, some do it like a special pop-up - that closes itself upon finishing business.
I know, you try keeping the site compatible with tablets etc., right?
(In the case of loading the same tab to and "back again" the tab's history will be "interfered" with those... Myself personally am accustomed to using keyboard navigation to "to and back".)

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